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this was used I season in a 8.5 car and only ran at shootouts so around 20 passes , we never used the brake, I have two converters to go with it one is a 3500 and 1 is a 2500 stall it worked fine we just stepped up to a 400 turbo 750.00 get the tranny and both converters call or text me for pics and with questions 870-416-1446
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